Creationism & Evolutionism
To build a house you need stones, cement and
water. Once built,
the stones and cement are seen but the
water is no longer seen.
Does this mean that
water is not needed for building the house?
Can the house be built without water?
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Obviously not. The existence of
the house the way we see it, is
itself indicative of the entity water, which
in effect, binds while
itself being unbound. Just the same, for the
entire universe to
exist, God is not only essential, but
primal. Any and all aspects
of creation are His will. But He is not
in any way limited to or
bound by what we are able to observe or make
sense of in this world.
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I am listing a few web sites where you will
find a few excellent
books that discuss the modern theory of evolution
& science. After
critically studying these theories, the authors
also present the Vedic
Vaishnava perspective based on Sri Veda Vyaasa's Srimad Bhagavatam
and other sources.
1)
http://www.mcremo.com/
2) http://www.nerdc.ufl.edu/~ghi/
3) http://www.bvinst.edu/home.html
I have read a few of
the publications mentioned in these web
sites and found them to be very
authentic. If anyone is interested,
I can recommend
specific books.
by rushing his theory
We must accept the vedic opinion when it contradicts
our scientific opinion.
Vedic opinion is the
word of
As a result this knowledge is completely perfect. On the other
hand, modern
scientific opinion is based on the opinion of
scientists who have the
following four defects :
1. Imperfect Senses : You cannot even see your hand in a dark room,
or the closest thing to the eye the
eyelid, then what to speak of other things
2. Make mistakes :
be a mistake, which brings us to the
third .
3. Tendency to cheat : Dont we know how much
cheating is going on in the
scientific
community, but with so much funding to be
sought, so much ambition at stake,
so many changing theories year after
year, we can get a pretty good idea.
4. Illusion : Materialists do not know who they are. If you do
not even know
about yourself, why you are born or die, or
how you think and act the way you
do, how can you comment or theorise on the formation of the Universe - its past,
even what's going on at present and so what
to speak of the future.
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There are two
aspects of Science :
1. One is practical
application of scientific
models. With the help of our
knowledge of electronics, we created computers,
Internet etc. We will use this
in the service of
This is a practical
approach to modern science.
2. Fundamental science : We will not use the our tiny brains to fathom how
the
Universe was created
because, simply it is not possible to understand. If
you
want to know who your father is you ask
your mother. She is the authority, she
knows who that creator was. In the same way
rather than looking here and there
speculating "are you my father?" "or are you my father?" "Was the Universe
created like this or like that, and when,
etc." We will use the words of God
from His scriptures that clearly tell us -
they are likened to the mother.
Vedic period
stressed more on spiritual understanding an they used
subtle
technologies to satisfy dharmartha and
we need today. As a result of our dull
brains which again is the result of the
advancing of kali yuga,
we have lost our ability to use mantras, etc., such as
those mentioned in the Yajur
Veda, Arthava Veda and Tantras
to achieve desired
results. But still
the names of the Lord (
enough to give us spiritual awakening. So we will cling on to the names. The
Supreme Personality
of Godhead does not lose His potency.
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Fundamentally we dont have to care about scientific knowledge. They only
deal
with material things and like all material
things scientific knowledge is
temporary.
being challenged today. However, we have lost much of the mundane
Vedic
sciences like medicine, engineering, etc. So we
will use the
modern techniques
just like a snake takes away a rat hole for
its home. Whether we use mantras to
light fire or friction between inflammable
objects to light fire, it is only
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In relation to those
who decry Vedic Science, we can react to the athiestic
opinion(s) of some of the foolish scientists by
showing that they are having the
above four defects and hence their
knowledge. they do not understand from where
their chemicals, atoms and protons come.
We should oppose
theory of evolution etc., not because it cannot happen. Any
thing is possible for
use it to show that
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Evolution is there,
one person (atman - jiva - soul) evolves through
various
bodies, that is evolution in reality. But show us where dull inert matter gave
birth or transformed into life.
The Vedic God centred tradition is mainly based
on Sruti Pramanam - truths
handed down from God. We also accept
evidential truths based on reports of
spiritual scientists; such as the Alwars, the great Acaryas - Ramanuja,
Bhaskara, Madhwa,
Vishnu Swami, Nimbarkar, Sri Chaitanya,
the Six Goswamis of
Vrindavan, Baladeva
VB, Bhaktivinod Thakur, Siddhanta Saraswati, A.C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad,
and his Bhaktivedanta Science Institute. Our own
experience (pratyaksha)
of science or of bhakti can be discounted by the
atheists as unexplained mental phenomenon by
scientists. And why not ? After all
they cannot touch it (tough we see as our realisations grow phenominal
changes
take place) they cannot examine bhakti under the microscope (there's no need to
examine the tiny fragments of structure, when
the external changes showing are
enough to convince most people that such
devotion and its reciprical Lord
exist).
But if we base our arguments on the
statements of the Vedas there is no problem
because we are taking knowledge directly from
are on the absolute platform (Bhagavad Gita
.
sarvasya cähaà
hådi sanniviñöo
mattaù småtir
jïänam apohanaà ca
vedaiç ca sarvair aham eva
vedyo
vedänta-kåd veda-vid eva cäham
.
"I am seated in
everyone’s heart, and from Me come
remembrance, knowledge and
forgetfulness. By all the Vedas,
I am to be known. Indeed, I am the compiler of
Vedänta, and I am the knower of the
Vedas."
.
evaà paramparä-präptam
imaà räjarñayo
viduù
sa käleneha
mahatä
yogo nañöaù
parantapa
.
"This supreme
science was thus received through the chain of disciplic
succession, and the saintly kings understood it
in that way. But in course of
time the succession was broken, and
therefore the science as it is appears to be
lost."Therefore the Lord appeared, and He made arrangements that His devotees
appeared to re-establish that Supreme Science
through the Parampara.
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Devotees are any one
who defends God, and because of their connection with Him
are superior in knowledge to atheistic
mortal so-called scientists who propound
theories which they can in no way be sure of andwhich so often mislead people in
to adharma
(nescience - that which is against the Supreme Scientist God).
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We dont have to misinterpret the Vedas when they say things
which may appear to
contradict our
observation - for example seven seas around the
Earth, various layers like a
coconut that contain each Universe, ropes of
wind that keep the planets in
orbit, green cheese moon, or gigantic Timangillar fish that eat whales, etc.
That is because our
interpretation manufactured with our tiny brains is also
bound by the four defects stated above. So we will honestly admit that we do not
know what it means. Our ignorance does not
make
mothers explain so many things to the child
about moon, trees etc., while
feeding him. The child does not obviously
understand these things. But he does
not think that the mother does not know
what she is talking about.
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Like that we will accept
without interpretation. One reason that He is
great because He is so
knowledgeable that many things He
says are incomprehensible to our tiny brains.
What we don't know or understand we have multivolumes
of shastra to research to
find out the answer, and millions of
advanced devotees to help us. there we can
be confident in giving the answer, even
if it is, that I don't know, but let me
find out for you. Even in such an endeavour we stand to make
advancement in
An Example of
Atheism Being Defeated by Theism
On the subject of Religion vis-a-vis Science, I would like to invite your
attention to Pre-Saranagath
issue Vol. 1.004 dated
which the subject has been dealt with in
great detail under "3. From Chapter
2 of Hinduism Resdiscovered - 2.2 "Religion and Science"
Please visit:
http://www.srivaishnava.org/sgati
Reproduced below is
an exceprt from the above.
Dasoham
Anbil Ramaswamy
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The respective roles
of science and Religion may be summarized as follows :
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S.No.
Science (S)
Religion (R)
.
1.
(S) Merely INFORMS
you
(R) Can TRANSFORM
you
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2.
(S) DESCRIBES life
(R) EXPLAINS life
......
3.
(S) CATERS to your
INTELLECT
(R) APPEALS to your
INTUITION
..
4.
(S) UNRAVELS the
`WHAT' of things
(R) REVEALS the
`THAT' of things
....
5.
(S) By very NATURE
has to be SUBJECT to the RATIONAL
(R) By very PURPOSE
has to TRANSCEND the RATIONALE
...
6.
(S) EXPLOITS for you
the REDUCTIONIST aspect of the universe
(R) PUTS TOGETHER
the HOLISTIC aspect of the universe
...
7.
(S) Has made MAJOR
CONTRIBUTIONS to your MINOR needs
(R) Has only MINOR
EXPECTATIONS for your MAJOR needs
...
8.
(S) Is a COLLECTIVE
OBLIGATION answerable to the PEERS in society
(R) Is INDIVIDUAL
RESPONSIBILITY irrespective of the EXPERTS in society
...
9.
(S) TAKES CARE of your
MICRO PROBLEMS
(R) UNDERTAKES to fulfil your MACRO ASPIRATIONS
.....
10.
(S) MICRO is in our
SCIENTIFIC hands
(R) MACRO is in HIS
INVISIBLE hands
....
11.
(S) DESCRIBES our
RELATIONSHIPS in the OBJECTIVE world
(R) ADDS MEANING to
WHAT is KNOWN and WHAT IS UNKNOWN
.......
12.
(S) LOOKS for
DIFFERENCES among things
(R) SEEKS for the
SAMENESS of divinity in all things as evidence to the glory
of God.
.....
13
(S) is the knowledge of SECONDARY Causes of CREATED SKILLS
(R) is the knowledge of the PRINCIPLES of UNCREATED Causes.
A Critique Of
Modern Scientific Methodology
From The Vedic
Perspective
Some popular misconception about science
are outlined, then criticized from
a philosophical point of view. An
alternative and more
viable process
for obtaining reliable knowledge based on the Vedic
scriptures is
then presented.
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The
Evolution in Fact
and Fantasy