Text COM:1962169 (31 lines)
From: Madhava
Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Date:
24-Dec-98 12:53
To:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [312]
To: Holistic
Health (and related topics) [1552]
Cc:
DGilsen@aol.com (sent: 25-Dec-98
08:04) (sender: Kaunteya (das)
JPS
(Mayapur - IN))
Reference: Text COM:1950477 by Kaunteya (das) JPS
(Mayapur - IN)
Subject: Re: Neem
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>
>
> > ...using Neem
> > leaves as an Insect repellent. It is easily available in India, I guess,
> > but not very accessible in the USA.
The neem extract spray is available from Gardens Alive in
the USA. It is a
liguid concentrate,
that has a standard disclaimer on the bottle that says
"Don't contaminate food or foodstuffs", so I don't know if that actually
applies to this form of neem or is just required by
regulations. It is
considered an organic spray. It may be possible to use it as a dilute
spray on
containers, but
the label indicates otherwise.
> I recomend using a very fine sand
> > called Diametrous Earth. It is used as a swimming pool filter product.
> > Cheap, Deadly to insects, harmless to humans
and animals. Diametrous
> > earth can be used with any dried grain, then
washed off and eaten It cant
> > harm mammals. The dust from the product can
cause lung problems if inhaled
> > too much. Like any fine dust. You should use a dust mask over your nose
> > and mouth when using this product, It is tasteless
so it doesn't change
> > the flavor of the food.
I have used DE as a slug repellent in the garden. Many people swear by it,
but
we had such a slug heaven spring this year, and I started using it late, so
it is hard to give a personal ringing endorsement for
that particular useage.
Will try it again early this next spring. One thing,
the organic gardeners I
knew that recommended it say NOT to use the DE that is
formulated for swimming
pools. Most good
garden supply places have it. I think
the difference is in
how fine it is ground,
but I am not sure. Maybe they add
something to the
swimming pool stuff - don't really know, though.
(Text COM:1962169)
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Text COM:1954417 (78 lines)
From:
Internet: Ed MacMillan <EMacMillan@mfi.com>
Date:
21-Dec-98 15:48
To: Madhava
Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA) [2625]
(forwarded:
21-Dec-98 16:00)
To: Samba
(das) SDG (Bangalore - IN) [6094]
(received: 22-Dec-98 15:22)
To: Ugresa
(das) HKS (Cintamani Intl, Oslo - N) [10336]
(received:
23-Dec-98 20:07)
To:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [299]
To: Holistic
Health (and related topics) [1597]
Cc: Carolyne
Gilsen <DGilsen@aol.com> (sent:
22-Dec-98 14:25) (sender:
Kaunteya
(das) JPS (Mayapur - IN))
Comment: Text
COM:1957107 by Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Comment: Text
COM:1959731 by Tribhangananda (das) ACBSP (GB)
Subject: Re[2]:
Neem
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In the
Northern Climes (where we are from) the tree of choice for
getting rid of
pests is cedar. Most people here have cedar chests or
closets. In
the Mid-West there is also a tree called IronWood that
produces a
fruit. This fruit is inedible but is disliked by all kinds
of pests. In
any case there are natural ways to help prevent pests and
the like from
destroying grains etc. It is also worth noting if you
are storing
grains in food grade plastic air tight containers rats
will gnaw
through these. You have to keep these in a secure losation.
I dont know if
anybody remembers the mess at Chaitanya college when
the mice got
into the grain storage.
Thanks for
keeping me informed about the ongoing discussions re Y2K.
Your servant
Indranuja DA
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Subject: Re: Neem
Author: "COM:
Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)"
<Madhava.Gosh.ACBSP@com.bbt.se> at Internet
Date: 12/18/98
2:05 PM
[Text 1947478 from COM]
Southernwood is a plant that can be grown in temperate
climates. It is the
organic source of camphor. It has traditionally been used to store with
woolens
to keep moths out;
I would suspect it would have benefit for grain storage,
as
it is a moth that causes most of the trouble.
COM: Samba (das) SDG (Bangalore - IN) wrote:
> [Text 1943704 from COM]
>
> Dear Prabhus.
> I just found this.
>
> For Protecting Stored Crops
>
> One of the traditional uses of Neem in Asia has been
for controlling pests
> of stored products. Farmers usually mix Neem leaves
with grain before
> keeping it in storage for several months. Neem
leaves, oil or extracts act
> as repellent against several insects such as
weevils, flour beetles,
> bean-seed beetles and potato moths.
> Treatment of jute sack by Neem oil or
azadirachtin-rich-products prevents
> the penetration of pests like weevils and flour
beetles. Neem oil destroys
> bean-seed beetles (bruchids) - a variety of insects
mostly attacking legumes
> - at the egg-stage itself. A mixture of Neem leaves
and clay and cow-dung
> develops pest resistant property so it can be used
to make bins for storage
> of grain.
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Text COM:1951830 (25 lines)
From: Samba
(das) SDG (Bangalore - IN)
Date:
20-Dec-98 16:30
To:
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To: Holistic
Health (and related topics) [1598]
To: Madhava
Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA) [2620]
(forwarded:
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To: Ugresa
(das) HKS (Cintamani Intl, Oslo - N) [10324]
(received:
23-Dec-98 20:07)
Cc:
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(received: 21-Dec-98 00:19)
Reference: Text COM:1947478 by Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP
(New Vrindavan - USA)
Subject: Re: Neem
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I got the neem info from
www.neemfoundation.org/farming.htm
I was looking for general herbal pesticides. They have
recipies for
pesticides using neem, that you can make.
Check it out.
In the article I quoted from there was no mention of
quantities to use for
protecting grains in storage, but you could maybe email
them for more
details.
Samba
PS I am now in Mauritius and no one here has any idea
about organic farming.
My books are on a ship somewhere in the Indian ocean.
Does anyone know of
any good sites where I might be able to get advice on
choosing land and
farming in tropical climes? I am a complete greenhorn
when it comes to the
finer practical details of organic farming, and I need
people who I can
contact to help me learn the ropes of organic
permaculture in a tropical
place.
We have been looking at lands and it is exciting to
actualy be progressing
towards a more simple life on the land. Wish us luck.
Thanks
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Text COM:1950477 (16 lines)
From: Kaunteya
(das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:
20-Dec-98 00:14
To:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [293]
Cc: Holistic
Health (and related topics) [1550]
Reference: Text COM:1943704 by Samba (das) SDG (Bangalore
- IN)
Comment: Text
COM:1952531 by Balarama (das) LOK (Alachua, FL - USA)
Comment: Text
COM:1962169 by Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Subject: Neem
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Below is a comment by our consultant on self-sufficiency,
Bhaktin Carolyne
Gilsen.
your servant, Kaunteya das
> ...using Neem
> leaves as an Insect repellent. It is easily available in India, I guess,
> but not very accessible in the USA. I recomend using a very fine sand
> called Diametrous Earth. It is used as a swimming pool filter product.
> Cheap, Deadly to insects, harmless to humans and
animals. Diametrous
> earth can be used with any dried grain, then washed
off and eaten It cant
> harm mammals. The dust from the product can cause
lung problems if inhaled
> too much. Like any fine dust. You should use a dust mask over your nose
> and mouth when using this product, It is tasteless
so it doesn't change
> the flavor of the food.
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Text COM:1943704 (16 lines)
From: Samba
(das) SDG (Bangalore - IN)
Date:
17-Dec-98 13:31
To:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [289]
Cc: Holistic
Health (and related topics) [1547]
(sender: Ugresa (das)
HKS
(Cintamani Intl, Oslo - N))
Cc: Carolyne
Gilsen <DGilsen@aol.com> (sent:
17-Dec-98 15:19) (sender:
Kaunteya
(das) JPS (Mayapur - IN))
Comment: Text
COM:1947478 by Madhava Gosh (das) ACBSP (New Vrindavan - USA)
Comment: Text
COM:1950477 by Kaunteya (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Subject: Neem
------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Prabhus.
I just found this.
For Protecting Stored Crops
One of the traditional uses of Neem in Asia has been for
controlling pests
of stored products. Farmers usually mix Neem leaves with
grain before
keeping it in storage for several months. Neem leaves,
oil or extracts act
as repellent against several insects such as weevils,
flour beetles,
bean-seed beetles and potato moths.
Treatment of jute sack by Neem oil or
azadirachtin-rich-products prevents
the penetration of pests like weevils and flour beetles.
Neem oil destroys
bean-seed beetles (bruchids) - a variety of insects
mostly attacking legumes
- at the egg-stage itself. A mixture of Neem leaves and
clay and cow-dung
develops pest resistant property so it can be used to
make bins for storage
of grain.
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