Text COM:1814525 (79 lines) [W1]
From: Kaunteya
(das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:
31-Oct-98 10:42
To:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [176]
Cc: Nama
Hatta (Congregational Dev.) Forum [1211]
Subject: A Church
Leader's Moral Obligation... - from Srutakirti ACBSP
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Letter COM:1813502 (63 lines) [W1]
From:
Srutakirti (das) ACBSP (Philadelphia, PA - USA)
Date: 30-Oct-98
22:32
For:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?)
For: Nama
Hatta (Congregational Dev.) Forum
Subject: Re: A
Church Leader's Moral Obligation to Move His Church
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In a message dated 10/30/98 1:20:22 PM Eastern Standard
Time,
Kaunteya.JPS@com.bbt.se writes:
<< I would
like to stress this point: the first duty of a leader in regard
to Y2K and related issues is to thoroughly research the
issue, not to avoid
the process and take shelter of *apparently* Krishna
conscious platitudes
and cliches: "Just chant Hare Krishna" for
example. >>
I agree, but at the same time it must be balanced with a
good KC
understanding. I love to read Srila Prabhupada's words in
the following
passage.
Taken from a morning walk conversation (World War III) on
April 4, 1975 in
Mayapur
Pancadravida: What will the devotees do while the war is
going on?
Prabhupada: Chant Hare Krsna.
Devotees: Jaya! (laughter)
Prabhupada: You have got only business....
Pancadravida: Will we stay in the cities or will...?
Prabhupada: We can stay anywhere. We have got our
Mayapur, Vrndavana.....
Ramesvara: ...that if there is a war between Russia and
America, there would
be a nuclear war and they would pollute the whole
atmosphere with
radioactive
particles which would kill everyone.
Prabhupada: It is already polluted.
Ramesvara: They say that this radioactive fall-out...
Prabhupada: The whole material world is polluted. Who
will live here? A
little, say, twenty years before, dying. After all, you
have to die, twenty
years after or twenty years before. So it is already
polluted. That is
humbugism. They will die at the end, but still they are
trying to live.
(kirtana in background growing progressively louder as
Prabhupada approaches
temple)
Tamala Krsna: Like they’re creating their own...
Prabhupada: This is the difference between man of
knowledge and without
knowledge. A man of knowledge will think, “After all, I
have to die. So what
is the difficulty, dying a few days more or before?” That
is knowledge. And
those who are not in knowledge, they are afraid of death.
Best business is
before the death comes let us finish our Krsna
consciousness perfectly. That
is wanted. Death will come. You cannot avoid it.
Ramesvara: They say that this radioactive fallout will
pollute the air so
that
no crops can be grown.
Prabhupada: That’s all right. You shall die without food.
Be(cause) after
all,
the death. In Bengal, it is called: more bhera ghalne
(?): “The most
misfortunate thing is death.” That will come. Therefore
the best
intelligence
is how to avoid death.
Rupanuga: Become immortal.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is real intelligence, not to be
bothered by these
trifle
temporary things that “I am dying twenty years before. If
the situation was
better, I would have lived more twenty years.” What is
this mentality?
Devotee: Back to Godhead.
Ajata-satru: Yes, we can go back to Godhead. (Prabhupada
enters temple,
kirtana very loud) (end)
Haàsadüta: So Prabhupäda, is there something we should do
to prepare
ourselves
for this disaster?
Prabhupäda: What?
Haàsadüta: This coming war.
Prabhupäda: You should simply prepare for chanting Hare
Kåñëa.
Haàsadüta: That’s all?
Prabhupäda: That’s all.
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Text COM:1814526 (71 lines) [W1]
From: Kaunteya
(das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:
31-Oct-98 10:42
Cc:
Apocalypse 1999? (Are you ready?) [178]
Cc: Nama
Hatta (Congregational Dev.) Forum [1213]
Reference: Text COM:1813502 by Srutakirti (das) ACBSP
(Philadelphia, PA - USA)
Subject: A Church
Leader's Moral Obligation... - from Kaunteya das
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> Kaunteya.JPS@com.bbt.se writes:
>
> << I
would like to stress this point: the first duty of a leader in
> regard to Y2K and related issues is to thoroughly
research the issue, not
> to avoid the process and take shelter of
*apparently* Krishna conscious
> platitudes and cliches: "Just chant Hare
Krishna" for example. >>
Srutakirti Prabhu wrote:
> I agree, but at the same time it must be balanced
with a good KC
> understanding. I love to read Srila Prabhupada's
words in the following
> passage.
>
> Taken from a morning walk conversation (World War
III) on April 4, 1975 in
> Mayapur
> Haàsadüta: So Prabhupäda, is there something we
should do to prepare
> ourselves for this disaster?
> Prabhupäda: What?
> Haàsadüta: This coming war.
> Prabhupäda: You should simply prepare for chanting
Hare Kåñëa.
> Haàsadüta: That’s all?
> Prabhupäda: That’s all.
The conversation continues, and, later on, we also find
the following
exchanges:
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Tamala Krsna: Actually, if there was a war, a large-scale
war, I think that
our farming projects...
Prabhupada: Hm?
Tamala Krsna: I think that the various farm projects that
we have would be
very good because, as you said, the cities would be
bombed, but the farms
would not be disturbed.
Prabhupada: Yes. The farm project... Even some hundreds
of years, it was so
nice. Even there was war, they would not attack the
farmers. Rather, they
would ask, "Where the other party has gone?" So
they will say: "Oh, we have
seen some soldiers going this way." That's all. They
were not affected. That
was the principle. Farmers were not attacked...
Prabhupada: Oh. (break) ...too much danger, you all come
and sit down here.
Chant Hare Krsna. That's all.
Devotees: Jaya. Thank you, Srila Prabhupada.
Jayadvaita: Then men will be eager to come join our India
project.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Tamala Krsna: We can go to Africa also. (laughter)
Prabhupada: Oh, anywhere we can go, so many places, yes.
Pancadravida: Hong Kong also.
Prabhupada: Hong Kong? (laughter)
Pusta Krsna: Bhavananda Maharaja can...
Ajata-satru: Means then some devotees has to stay in
Europe or in America.
So...
Prabhupada: Yes, everything you stay. We have got place
like this.
Rupanuga: Our farms are very nice because economically
when everything is in
chaos, we can still provide food for our men.
Prabhupada: Yes.
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I just gave these quotations to show other aspects of the
same conversation,
which--let's remember it--deals with nuclear war and not
with Y2K. But
Srutakirti Prabhu's point is still very relevant:
> it must be balanced with a good KC understanding.
your servant, Kaunteya das
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